Placas

Placas

16 May 2006 Immigration & Residency 95

Nothing we say will ever prepare you for the unique experience of doing what it takes to get Yucatan license plates on your gringo automobile. But we're going to tell you the story anyway. Perhaps it will be entertaining. Perhaps it will be a cautionary tale. You'll laugh, you'll cry!

Our story begins four years ago, when we drove our trusty white SUV (in Spanish: la camioneta blanca... it's important to know how to describe your car in Spanish for the guys who take your cart at Costco and help you unload your purchases) on a ten-day roadtrip from California to the Yucatan. Before we left, we un-registered the car as "off-the-road" in California, dutifully paying our minimal registration fee each year.

Last year, the rear license plate (placa trasera) was mysteriously stolen, (some say, "collected"). We really have no idea when or where it was taken (Note: we've never had anything else taken from our car in 4.5 years). One day we just noticed it was gone. No problem... we still had the front one. After being stopped by la policia and told we really should report the stolen plates, we trekked to the outskirts of Merida, beyond the Periferico (the ring road around the city) to the Procuraduria General de Justicia, loosely translated as the Hall of Justice. (Even our in-house native Yucateco doesn't know what a procuraduria is... anyone???) Here, we brought in our pink slip and registration from the States and reported that our placa had been taken. Someone in a small office typed up a page of text basically saying so in Spanish, signed and stamped it and gave it back to us. Now we had something to show la policia next time we were stopped.

Of course, we weren't stopped again until about a year later, when the *other* placa went missing. Now we had a documento saying that our placa trasera was stolen, but nothing about la placa en frente. Back to the Procuraduria. Now we had two documents. But no placas.

La policia didn't like that. They were nice about it, but we started getting stopped more often, and being from California where being stopped by the police makes our hair stand on end, *we* didn't particularly like THAT.

Perfect timing , we thought. We are going back to the States for our daughter's wedding and we'll get our license plates replaced there. No problema, said the nice lady at the California DMV, just put your car back "on" the road (registration-wise) and give us a smog certificate. Oh. Not possible to get a smog certificate in the Yucatan. And we certainly don't have time to drive back to California just to get one.

OK, let's get Yucatan plates then! That will look cool on our SUV!

Across from the zoo, we were told, is a big building. Therein you will find the Yucatecan version of the DMV, also known as the Departamento de Registro de Control Vehicular. Armed with her passport, FM3 Visa, a copy of a bill in our name at our address (known as a comprabante), the pink slip and the papers we were given for the car at the border (Permiso de Importacion Temporal de Vehiculos), Working Gringa blithely set out one sunny day to get those plates. She was directed to a large building where inside a huge, hacienda-like interior painted bureaucracy green, hundreds, maybe thousands of people were waiting in line. Dios mio! This can't be the place! Luckily, it wasn't. Across the street, in a far more unassuming building, more people were waiting in rows and rows of chairs. This can't be it either! Sadly, this time it was.

One lone woman stood at the front of the hundreds of people waiting patiently in chairs, doling out information. Por favor, senora, que necesito hacer? (Please, ma'am, what do I need to do?) or (Please, ma'am, have pity on me and tell me I don't have to go sit at the end of that line of all those people in chairs?). The information lady had pity indeed, and sent WG to another office, where a very patient woman explained that you can't just get placas for a vehiculo extranjero (a foreign vehicle) because first you need a pedimento. Where do I get that? In Progreso.

Luckily, we don't live far from Progreso, so off to Progreso we went. After much searching, we found an agencia aduanal (customs broker) named Patrón Castellanos and came to the understanding that we had to import the car before we could get placas. From inside a colonial building with beamed ceilings, mosaico-tiled floors and 50-year old furniture, this busy customs broker treated us very well, even providing us with an English-speaking agent, Mr. Ramon Buenfil (Tel: +52-969-935-1991). He gave us an estimate of $7,500 pesos (about $720 USD) to import our 10-year-old car, which included the import fee, taxes and the customs broker fee. We were told to bring the money in cash, along with all aforementioned documents. We were told it would take only a few hours.

The next week, Working Gringa set out to Progreso early one sunny morning to get the car imported. She had to return to Merida by 5 PM for an appointment, but that seemed very far in the future. The first four hours were spent waiting in Progreso while Mr. Buenfil prepared the paperwork. WG wandered around taking photos, going to the bank, and watching trucks parade down the street with lions and camels in cages advertising the circus that was coming to town (no photos... sorry! they were down the street by the time she fished the camera out of her purse). The rest of the time was spent nodding off in a rocking chair in the office below a ceiling fan, feeling much like a character in Casablanca or an employee of the United Fruit Company.

Finally, about 4 PM, WG mentioned that she had una cita (appointment) at 5 PM in Merida. Mr. Buenfil looked duly alarmed and within minutes introduced WG to another gentleman. Jorge jumped into the passenger seat of la camioneta blanca and directed the car and driver to the Aduana (customs) office at the end of the pier. More waiting, this time with big, BIG trucks lumbering by and seagulls circling overhead. Finally, Jorge emerged from the Aduana's office and directed WG back to Mr. Buenfil. More waiting, then documents to sign, money changed hands, and the Working Gringa was proudly presented with... drum roll, please... the Pedimento! The Pedimento is of equal importance to the pink slip, we were told. MUY importante! No lo pierda!! Don't lose it!

Needless to say, WG was late to her appointment, but no more than a normal Yucateca, so no problema.

Working Gringa felt she was finally seeing the light at the end of the placa tunnel. Qué tonta!! (What a silly fool!) A week later, WG set out on another sunny morning (are you counting how many sunny mornings we've spent on this so far?) to the Yucatan DMV to get those placas, (dammit!) The woman who had originally sent her for the pedimento nodded her head in approval, and then handed all the paperwork back to WG, telling her to get two copias of everything. Luckily, WG was up to their tricks by now, and knew that in all of these governmental offices, they have a conveniently located store that sells copias for all the poor fools who forgot to make them ahead of time. WG stood in the long line of fools and got copies of everything in her little package (or so she thought). Back to the lady who agreed that everything was in order. Then she asked, "Tienes una ficha?" Uh... no. Qué ficha? In Spanish, she kindly directed me back to the original information lady and instructed me to say to her: "Qué sigue?" (What next?)

What next, indeed!

The information lady wasn't there, but one of the many tamarindos working in the office directed WG to sit in a row of chairs. WG sat, not really sure what to do next but figured it would become apparent. It did. At the front of the bank of four rows of chairs, people were being called up to the desk. As each person was called, everyone in the four rows got up and moved down a chair, documents in hand, like a very slow game of musical chairs, but in order. Without the music.

Finally, it was WG's turn. A kind gentleman behind the counter looked gravely through all the documentos. "Tienes una FM3?" (Do you have an FM3 Visa?) "Si, señor!" Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to have it. WG had to have two copies of it. Something the pedimento lady apparently wasn't aware of. Or had perversely forgotten to mention? Back to the copia store. Back to the kind gentleman. Todo bien! All the papers are in order. Time to sit down again and wait for your name to be called.

Now, maybe YOU have a name that sounds pretty in Spanish, but WG's name is virtually unpronounceable by a Spanish speaker. So when the name was read over the loudspeaker, it sounded more like "Erin Fayed Fels". WG almost missed her cue, but luckily got up to the counter just in time to be told to go get la camioneta blanca and park it in Espacio Numero Cuatro (Space #4). Surely, this must be the last step!

WG drove into #4 and another kindly gentleman made two carbon rubbings of the VIN number on the inside of the windshield. He peered into the back of the SUV (to make sure she wasn't smuggling retired U.S. citizens into Mexico?) and then gave WG a little slip of paper and told her to go back inside and sit down and wait for her name to be called.

The next ten minutes were spent frantically looking for a parking space as WG realized she had lost hers and if she didn't find one soon, she might not be inside to hear her name called.

Que tonta! She need not have worried. Back inside, she sat. She waited.

WG began to think she wasn't going to make her 1:00 PM lunch appointment (she started at 9:30 AM). Minutes went by. More minutes. No Erin Fayed Fels was being called. More minutes. The chair hurt. The air conditioning was freezing. The guy in the next chair was silently farting. Dios mio! Will this never end??

Finally, at 1 PM a voice intoned, "Erin Fayed Fels!". WG jumped up to the counter thinking she would just take the paperwork, get the placas and arrive late to her lunch date by only a Yucatan minute (half an hour). The kind lady behind the counter gave her a tiny slip of paper and told her to go wait in the other room to hear her name called.

You MUST be kidding.

OK, WG steadied her nerves. She could do this. She went into the other room and waited. Miraculously, within five minutes her name was called to go to Caja D (Window D). (OK, caja means 'box'. Ventana means 'window'. But when you are in a place where there are service windows, the word used is caja.) At Caja D, WG coughed up another $303 pesos and, after much checking of documents and stamping of sellos (seals), was sent to the end of the building. There, WG waited another ten minutes while the worker bees behind the counter talked and laughed and checked the validity of the stack of documentos associated with Erin Fayed Fels, who was nearing the end of her proverbial cuerda (rope). After the documentos were apparently in order, finalmente, WG was presented with... PLACAS!

If you live in the Yucatan and choose to reproduce this adventure, be sure to prepare yourself with the following items:

  • Pink slip
  • Permiso de Importacion Temporal de Vehiculos
  • Passport of owner on pink slip
  • FM3 of owner on pink slip
  • Comprabante (telephone, water or electric bill with owners name and address)
  • 2 (make it 3) copies of all of the above (both sides!)
  • Cash, in large bills and small change (for copies you forgot to make)
  • A cell phone (to cancel your appointments)
  • A book or magazine (NOT an iPod, because you can't hear your name called when you're listening to Democracy Now)
  • A granola bar (in case you feel faint)
  • A working grasp of Spanish or a translator (only one person in this whole process spoke English)
  • A sense of humor (or equivalent)

Ya, la camioneta blanca puede decir: "Yo soy Yucateca!"

(Finalmente)

Comments

  • Ellen 17 years ago

    This was a great piece. I read it just as I was beginning to feel sorry for myself and U.S. bureaucracy problems. I am now very ashamed as I can see that your adventure was much better than mine.

  • 18 years ago

    sweet! thank you very much to the info in this story! i recently took a 1956 Chevy Apache(historic vehicle) to mexico nad my plates were also stolen! so it's just sitting there...parked...:( yay now i have the info of where to go(kind of) and what to take...off to my adventure i go...wish me luck...i might come back crazy

  • Peter y Carolina 18 years ago

    From our experiences in Monterrey with Immigration, Aduana, and getting a Mexican drivers license, there's nothing unusual in WG's fascinating story. One thing that is missing is the value of having a Mexican wife that is practiced & accomplished in the fine art of making bribes.

  • lynn Ortega 18 years ago

    When I drove down last year I had my plates attached to my car with bolts that can not be removed,and spot welded .

  • Memo 18 years ago

    WGs, this also happens to any foreigner in Mexico, not just English-speaking gringos. I lived in Mexico City, and you might think coming from another Latin American country is the same, but it's not. But well, I am now in New York City, and I went to DMV at a fancier address, Broadway and 34th Street, took a "number" and waited in line a long time, to get my "New York Placas", being humbled by the very rough and tough New Yorkers in "cajas". Sounds like governments are all alike!

  • Pets and Vets in Yucatan 18 years ago

    [...] The Working Gringos have two sets of furry dopplegangers, so we speak from experience. We brought our cats, Penguin and Byrd, with us from California. It was surprisingly easy to import them to Mexico. The vet in California knew the correct form to fill out. We took them on the plane in cat carriers and presented the form in Cancun when we arrived. It took the bureaucratic wheels about 45 minutes to spin out a permission and voilá! we had Mexican cats. Much easier than importing a car… [...]

  • Working Gringos 18 years ago

    Great story, Denis! Thanks for the information. And since we have just been discussing whether to buy a used or a new car, you may have saved us HOURS of frustration.

  • Denis Larsen 18 years ago

    I read your article when it was first posted and then again a week ago in anticipation of going to Merida to get license plates for my car. I trembled in fear both times I read it. Cold sweats broke out. And my stomach churned.

    But my experience was a lot different than yours. I was getting plates for a new car I purchased in Mexico; in Cancun to be exact. I did a lot of comparing, discussing and web-searching before I made up my mind to buy a new car in Mexico rather than buy one in the States and bring it on down. None of the car or minivan companies that I looked at would honor their warrantees across the border...either way! If I purchased in the US, any warrantee work would have to be done there; the same if I purchased in Mexico. I spoke with various dealerships in both countries and received substantially the same story in all of them. I also spoke with people who worked corporately and received the same story. I didn't like the idea of having to drive all the way to Texas from Valladolid if I needed warrantee service. Even though the price for identical models was higher in Mexico than in the US, I opted for that measure of security.

    I could have had the dealer in Cancun get my plates for me but then they would be from Quintana Roo rather than from Yucatan where I live. So I left the dealership without plates or even a piece of paper taped to the back window...just my Carta Factura. When I arrived in Valladolid I went to the local office of the state police to see what I needed to do. I received offical permission (permiso provisional sin placas) to drive without plates and without a tarjeta de circulacion vehicular for two months for $270 MXN. I taped it to the inside of the back window and drove off.

    When I asked where I went to obtain license plates, I was told "Merida". But wait, isn't Valladolid the second largest city in the state of Yucatan? Can't I get them here? No way, José. Merida. That's the only place in the entire state you can get license plates. But I was told that an agency was going to open in Valladolid sometime soon.

    When my two months of grace was coming to an end, I returned to the state police and obtained another two month permission to drive without plates...again paying the same fee. I was told that the agency in Valladolid where I could get plates might open soon.

    When my second two month period was almost up, I asked a national from Merida if he could guide me on how to get my plates. "Sure", he said, "we'll meet at 6:00 AM to get in line for the 8:00 AM opening of the agency in Merida". He gave me a list of the necessary papers I would need...both the originals and copies...and direction of where to meet him. Since I live in Valladolid I spent the night in Merida so that I could get an early start. Except for the confusion of Merida's one-way streets, the place was pretty easy to find. I arrived there about 7:00 AM and easily found a parking space. Every step I took I was thinking back to your article on the trials and tribulations of getting plates. My stomach was still churning.

    I found my friend...he had gotten there earlier than I and was probably no more than number 10 or 15 in line that already numbered over 150 people. And since he had done this more than once, he has paid someone to stand in line for him so that he wouldn't have to be there at 6:00 AM. The line got longer and longer. About 20 minutes before opening time, an official came along the line looking for people who were getting plates for new cars. Up went my hand. Me! Me! He led me (and a few others) to another door to start a new line. I was now number two in line. The original line, for people replating older cars was huge...many hundreds of people. Remind me never to buy a used car in the Yucatan.

    Promptly at 8:00 AM, the gate opened and we were escorted to the musical chairs section. An efficient and pleasant woman checked over my papers, gave most of them right back to me and then ran into printer problems. A tech quickly fixed the problem and she printed out my papers, tore off a bar code on one of them, gave it to me and said to go to the next room. I asked if that was it and she smiled and said "Yes".

    The next room contained the infamous caja 4. I waited for my name to be called. My friend asked an official walking by if my papers had come out yet. He went back to check, returning with my papers which he gave to a woman in caja 4. She looked them over, called my name, collected my barcoded paper, did a few calculations and told me how much I would have to pay. I forked over the pesos ( I had enough pesos since my friend had made a rough calculation of what I probably would have to pay). But it looked as if you could pay with a credit card since there were card-swipers on the desk in the caja. She printed out my official Tarjeta de Circulacion, stamped it Pagado and told me to go to the end of the row of cajas to get my plates.

    The man there quickly looked over my papers, picked a packet containing my plates from a bin, had me sign for them, gave them to me and told me to have a good day.

    That was it. I looked at my watch and it was not quite an hour for the entire procedure. Not yet 9:00 AM. So my friend and I went for tacos de lechon at a nearby place he knew.

    Upon reflection, I was very glad that I had a friend who knew the ropes and equally glad that I had purchased a new car in Mexico.I knew that some of the people in the original line were going to be there all day...and I was very happy not to be one of them.

    As far as I know, the agency in Valladolid is still not open. Nor is there a Toyota dealership here yet. I had also been told that a Toyota dealership would be opening in Valladolid soon. So I still have to take my car to either Merida or Cancun for service. Oh, well. If I wanted everything to be the same as it had been in New Jersey, I would have just stayed there.

  • Working Gringos 18 years ago

    Disculpanos for being California-centric. A pink slip is the title to your car. As for the age range, this was a 1996 GMC so we guess it would fall into your range. But we never heard anything about that.

    And we totally concur with going early to any place where you need to conduct business. Getting anything done after 1 pm at places like banks and government offices is pretty much impossible.

  • Joseph Mansfield 18 years ago

    I am looking into possibly importing a vehicle into Mexico. For me this article woould have more value if it discussed:

    1) Pink slip? What is that, for us who don't come from California?

    2) What is the age range that can be imported? I have heard that only model years 1990 through 1997, and that this range moves up a year every year.

    And I would advise anyone who does any kind of business with Mexican officials, always start very early in the day and never make any appointments or plan on getting anything ese done that day!

  • maya 18 years ago

    A natural born Mexican citizen can nationalize the American car, he or she would have to follow all the legal procedures just like everybody else. It could be less cumbersome for him or her because he or she is an insider and they could bend the rules for him or her to legalize it.
    Having a natural born mexican citizen to do that could have its ramifications for example it could deprived the opportunity to bring another vehicle into Mexico, the car could be confiscated by custom officials if driven by her or him before is nationalized and you have to do fictitious sales transactions,transfering titles to new ownership and at the end you still have to obtain the license plate personally.

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